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kreynet need op

2005-01-14T17:51:52-04:00

And btw, 5 secs on that is very low

Is a bit low; decided to play safe and set it to 120.

Regarding nicks, after 5 yrs of using 12 the powers that be at DALnet suddenly decided I had too many and froze them all on me. An e-mail got all bar 2 released so, for future reference they do allow a user to hold 10 nicks.

Statistics: Posted by Alchera — Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:51 pm

kreynet need op

2005-01-14T16:01:41-04:00

Well a timer would have definately resolved the problem. But the eggdrop coders should have atleast a 1-2 minute time delay in the need settings so they don't flood services atleast, or well they should atleast have a variable which users can set for the delay after every delay time if the bot needs op, unban, invite etc.

And btw, 5 secs on that is very low, should be 60+ seconds or delay beleive me. These staff members think they own servers, however 95% all servers are sponsored by universities and donated by isps.

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:01 pm

kreynet need op

2005-01-14T13:21:13-04:00

I had my nicks frozen along with my bot, just because of this need-op

Would a timer have solved this problem?

Here's what I use without a drama with DALnet:

need-op {time_chanserv #Ballarat}

Code snippets:

Code:

utimer 5 "time_chanserv $chan"

The proc:

Code:

proc time_chanserv {chan} { if {![botisop $chan]} {  putlog "*** Requesting ops from ChanServ on channel $chan"  putserv "PRIVMSG $::chanservicename :op $chan $::botnick" }}

I might just increase that timer a little though.

Statistics: Posted by Alchera — Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:21 pm

kreynet need op

2005-01-14T05:20:29-04:00

ok,

guess "manually" is your friend then, i know very well how the irc ops of that network thinks so i had to talke it out and enter it only for channels that the bot is opped,

for me the reason for using need-op or at least need-invite is to make the bot somewhat more powerful against playful kids and all,

I know it would be less "lame?" if I would just set an sticky exempt and then ask another bot to op, but why not borrow immortality

Statistics: Posted by CosmicD — Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:20 am

kreynet need op

2005-01-14T03:43:10-04:00

Tell that to the lame staff of DALnet, lamers don't even know how to code. Just to handle operserv and they think, they know everything.

I had my nicks frozen along with my bot, just because of this need-op, need-unban. Some sop deleted one of my bots and since need-op, need-unban etc were set on, they sabused services which resulted in me being a sabuser, including a 15day akill with a network services ignore.

So I would suggest, whatever you do, please do not use the need* ridiculous features. Just script your way around it, now like I have. These features really piss me off now.

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:43 am

kreynet need op

2005-01-13T21:46:41-04:00

hmm,

now I have a problem that , when i join some channel that my bot is not going to get ops it always floods the chanserv for ops....

I know I can just delete the variables in the above posts,and enter one specificly for each chan, that would be the putserv "privmsg K :op $channelname" thing.

but how do you set into the bot that on each new channel it has to put the same variable (and can be removed when needed ) ?

Statistics: Posted by CosmicD — Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:46 pm

kreynet need op

2004-12-24T20:47:59-04:00

hmm, do you mean that need ops "always" continues to send requests to services ? also if it has ops ? (normally I would see that because whenever you ask ops you actually see the serice op the bot even if it is having an op)...

no need-ops is only executed when it 'needs' ops

Statistics: Posted by ^DooM^ — Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:47 pm

kreynet need op

2004-12-23T16:39:43-04:00

hmm, do you mean that need ops "always" continues to send requests to services ? also if it has ops ? (normally I would see that because whenever you ask ops you actually see the serice op the bot even if it is having an op)...

Statistics: Posted by CosmicD — Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:39 pm

kreynet need op

2004-12-20T20:49:23-04:00

You can make a simple timer to execute as well, to check say every 5 mins if the bot is opped on the channel or not.

The 'need-op' one floods services alot, and I got my bot killed alot of times, since it is very rapid, unless you use a timer delay.

Code:

#Set channels to check ops onset opchans "#chan1 #chan2 #chan3"#Set the time in minutes to check if the bot is opped on each channelset opchecktime "5"timer $opchecktime check:opsproc check:ops { } { global opchecktime opchans  foreach c $opchans {   if {![botisop $c]} {    putquick "PRIVMSG K :OP $c" -next    }   } timer $opchecktime check:ops}

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:49 pm

kreynet need op

2004-12-20T08:58:50-04:00

ah yeah, the foo proc thingy worked, thx,

i guess it can work together with the other procedure because it would immediately op the bot again....

So, for archiving purposes, if someone needs this on Kreynet:
+ added invite functionally for the bot tp become immortal

Code:

set regnick "chanservnickofbot" set password "chanservpassforbot" set init-server {putserv "PRIVMSG K :LOGIN $regnick $password"} bind mode - "* -o" check:mode proc check:mode {n ho ha ch mc who} {    if {[string equal -nocase $::botnick $who]} { putserv "PRIVMSG K :op $ch" } } bind need - "% op" fooproc foo {c t} {putserv "privmsg K :op $c"}bind need - "% invite" blahproc blah {c t} {putserv "privmsg K :invite $c"}

, thx all

Statistics: Posted by CosmicD — Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:58 am

kreynet need op

2004-12-20T08:39:04-04:00

did you read demond's post?

Statistics: Posted by user — Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:39 am

kreynet need op

2004-12-20T08:22:16-04:00

This is the "entire" kreynet chanserv (K) script that I have now withlogin routine also + added code from this thread,

Code:

set regnick "chanservnickofbot"set password "chanservpassforbot"set init-server {putserv "PRIVMSG K :LOGIN $regnick $password"}#---- keep ops section received from egghelp.org forum ------bind mode - "* -o" check:modeproc check:mode {n ho ha ch mc who} {   if {[string equal -nocase $::botnick $who]} { putserv "PRIVMSG K :op $ch" }}

so the situation:

lets say the bot has an @ on #a and not on #b. when I get to channel #a , and test this script, the bot will automaticly regain ops set by the script. but the bot was on channel #b and already deopped when I put the code in the sepparate chanserv tcl file that I have set for it to load.

Now, the bot doesn't seem to know that it is deopped on channel #b.... thus, the script doesn't make it awware that it is "deopped" only when you actively deop it when it has ops.. Hope i make myself clearer now

Statistics: Posted by CosmicD — Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:22 am

kreynet need op

2004-12-20T07:56:29-04:00

I don't fully understand what you are trying to say. Could you paste your actual code over here, the one which you use so we can take a look.

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:56 am

kreynet need op

2004-12-20T07:44:39-04:00

ah,

well I used the first one , but what happens is that my bot is deopped on one channel befor i rehashed, then I've deopped it myself on a channel i'm operator on and it seems to work if it actually detects a mode change..

anyway when it would script, the first part of the K script would log it in and op it automaticly because chanserv does that on login and on join,

the problem now is, it doesn't seem to be aware that it's deopped.... its just aware when you deop it ....

how can I solve that ? (thanks for the help already)

Statistics: Posted by CosmicD — Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:44 am

kreynet need op

2004-12-20T04:52:19-04:00

Any of these two will do the same job. It's just a persons preference both of which he considers his favourite:

[string equal -nocase $botnick $target]
[isbotnick $target]

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:52 am