egghelp/eggheads community Discussion of eggdrop bots, shell accounts and tcl scripts. 2004-10-30T11:58:43-04:00 https://forum.eggheads.org/app.php/feed/topic/8355 2004-10-30T11:58:43-04:00 2004-10-30T11:58:43-04:00 https://forum.eggheads.org/viewtopic.php?p=42417#p42417 <![CDATA[ok, im ready]]>
or is on staff at kire

Statistics: Posted by rabb1d — Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:58 am

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I've used kirenet for 6 months they are good.
Seems something happened recently. :P
- They kill my proccess just cause my eggies have 300kb+ tcls and it ate alot of their cpu usage.

Statistics: Posted by Alchera — Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:55 pm

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Here are the top #5. Listed with respect to their positions.

1. Kirenet
2. Lomag
3. Unixrules
4. Risingnet
5. Jeah

is this the same person that said :
I agree with rmm for Kirenet.

I have had lots of problems.

- Their uptime sucks.
- Their support sucks.
- Their prices are damn sky high, and services are not upto standard.
- They kill my proccess just cause my eggies have 300kb+ tcls and it ate alot of their cpu usage.

You suck Erik!
Yet in this post hes recomending them as his #1 pick ?

Statistics: Posted by rabb1d — Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:31 pm

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Statistics: Posted by rabb1d — Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:19 pm

]]> 2004-10-13T23:43:06-04:00 2004-10-13T23:43:06-04:00 https://forum.eggheads.org/viewtopic.php?p=41808#p41808 <![CDATA[ok, im ready]]> shell section of the links page as well as some expired links. Not many left now; perhaps people can suggest some new ones :)

Statistics: Posted by slennox — Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:43 pm

]]> 2004-10-13T04:34:05-04:00 2004-10-13T04:34:05-04:00 https://forum.eggheads.org/viewtopic.php?p=41784#p41784 <![CDATA[ok, im ready]]> They used to have a rather good support on IRC but that has been crappy since about a year. I have been trying to get an answer about why one of their vhosts wount resolve for about 6 months without any luck.
All in all I was about to drop them, but before i came around to it i had autorenewed for another 6 months... did i get any mail about this you wonder... hell no.

Kire is good, but they used to be better. Today there is several better providers than them.

/mopar

Statistics: Posted by mopar — Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:34 am

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I've used kirenet for 6 months they are good. Lomag are good to but they didn't let my eggdrop up if it used 1% or more cpu. Because my eggdrop was eating alot of memory due to alot of tcl scripts it had loaded. Lomag was stable, it has the most greatest uptimes I currently know.

Judging a shell provider by saying they review their own website is not totally true. I have never been to these websites, neither I read reviews as there are always good and bad patches and people might experience at different times.

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:10 pm

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judging a shell provider by if they've set the clock or not ..rofl

/me dies :mrgreen:
read the post in its entire. Also if the clock isnt set properly through rdate etc... on some processes things will crash, not link or just not function properly in other ways etc....

I noticed from your rather large number of posts, that you should know this to be true.

You don't buy a car with a broken speedometer, and just be happy because it barely runs, unless you are indeed a red neck :mrgreen:

Statistics: Posted by rabb1d — Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:46 pm

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/me dies :mrgreen:

Statistics: Posted by greenbear — Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:38 pm

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Here are the top #5. Listed with respect to their positions.

1. Kirenet
2. Lomag
3. Unixrules
4. Risingnet
5. Jeah
I have to question you for riding kirenet, and Jeahs bird. Lomag, unixrules I can agree with you on. You should be ashamed of yourself.

My reasoning:

Kirenet:

http://netsaint.kirenet.com/
At the time of this post the boxes all have high loads, and not a single one of them agree what freekin time it is:

avenger
ping-status [ OK ]
clock: 7:04pm
uptime: 32 days
load avarage:
0.18, 0.56, 0.53

blazer
ping-status [ OK ]
clock: 7:09pm
uptime: 92 days
load avarage:
1.85, 1.90, 1.96

echo
ping-status [ OK ]
clock: 6:59pm
uptime: 72 days
load avarage:
0.22, 0.46, 0.53

legend
ping-status [ OK ]
clock: 3:07am
uptime: 28 days
load avarage:
0.33, 0.31, 0.29

phantom
ping-status [ OK ]
clock: 7:03pm
uptime: 92 days
load avarage:
0.84, 0.88, 0.77

stealth
ping-status [ OK ]
clock: 11:07pm
uptime: 55 days
load avarage:
2.55, 2.88, 2.95

turbo
ping-status [ OK ]
clock: 7:00pm
uptime: 92 days
load avarage:
0.00, 0.01, 0.00

With all that being very evident that either the admin doesnt know how to set the time on the machines, or doesnt care either way, you get a looser, and you get to pay twice as much as you should. I bet he doesnt host many time sensitive processes.

Not to mention the up and down lately, stuff has been very unreliable.
Also note kire also owns its own review site, how cute. Giving itself high notched reviews and comments such as:
http://www.shellcentral.com
Overall Experience: 10
My experience with KIRE's Linux genius has definitely left an impression.
I would recommend KIREnet to anybody seeking to learn or utilize Linux
on an advanced level. Their customer service is outstanding and everything
I have reviewed was completely user-friendly with the customer in mind.
Like gag me with a spoon already. How lame does it have to get?

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# whois shellcentral.comWhois Server Version 1.3Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registeredwith many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.netfor detailed information.   Domain Name: SHELLCENTRAL.COM   Registrar: INNERWISE, INC. D/B/A ITSYOURDOMAIN.COM   Whois Server: whois.itsyourdomain.com   Referral URL: http://www.itsyourdomain.com   Name Server: NS1.KIRE.NET   Name Server: NS2.KIRE.NET   Name Server: NS3.KIRE.NET   Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK   Updated Date: 17-sep-2004   Creation Date: 27-apr-1998   Expiration Date: 26-apr-2005>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:02:13 EDT <<<NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date theregistrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry iscurrently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expirationdate of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoringregistrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database toview the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whoisdatabase through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume andautomated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names ormodify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global RegistryServices' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign forinformation purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining informationabout or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does notguarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abideby the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data onlyfor lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Datato: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of massunsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processesthat apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expresslyprohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not touse electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access orquery the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to registerdomain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the rightto restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensureoperational stability.  VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to theWhois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSignreserves the right to modify these terms at any time.The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains andRegistrars.The Data in ItsYourDomain's WHOIS database is provided by ItsYourDomain.comfor information purposes, and to assist persons in obtaining informationabout or related to a domain name registration record.  ItsYourDomain.comdoes not guarantee its accuracy.  By submitting a WHOIS query, you agreethat you will use this Data only for lawful purposes and that, under nocircumstances will you use this Data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwisesupport the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising orsolicitations via e-mail (spam); or (2) enable high volume, automated,electronic processes that apply to ItsYourDomain.com, its systems, or itscustomers. ItsYourDomain reserves the right to modify these terms at anytime.By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain: shellcentral.com Registrant   KIREnet Communications   erik@kirenet.com   P.O. Box 513   n/a,  11111 US   +1.1111111111 Administrative   KIREnet Hostmaster   KIRENET COMMUNICATIONS   dns@kirenet.com   P.O. Box 513   Dighton, MA 02715 US   +1.8775473638 Billing   KIREnet Hostmaster   KIRENET COMMUNICATIONS   dns@kirenet.com   P.O. Box 513   Dighton, MA 02715 US   +1.8775473638 Technical   KIREnet Hostmaster   KIRENET COMMUNICATIONS   dns@kirenet.com   P.O. Box 513   Dighton, MA 02715 US   +1.8775473638 Record created on April 27, 1998 Record last updated on February 09, 2004 Record expires on April 26, 2005 Domain Name Servers:   NS1.KIRE.NET   NS2.KIRE.NET   NS3.KIRE.NET



Now onto jeah.

Jeah owns several review sites and seems to have no problem being its own best critic kinda like kire net did, but jeah opened a number of other sites. This giving itself top notch reviews.

http://www.shellproviders.com/reviews.shtml
a review site owned by jeah

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# whois shellproviders.comWhois Server Version 1.3Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registeredwith many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.netfor detailed information.   Domain Name: SHELLPROVIDERS.COM   Registrar: INNERWISE, INC. D/B/A ITSYOURDOMAIN.COM   Whois Server: whois.itsyourdomain.com   Referral URL: http://www.itsyourdomain.com   Name Server: NS1.JEAH.NET   Name Server: NS2.JEAH.NET   Status: ACTIVE   Updated Date: 07-oct-2004   Creation Date: 26-jul-2000   Expiration Date: 26-jul-2005>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:02:13 EDT <<<NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date theregistrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry iscurrently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expirationdate of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoringregistrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database toview the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whoisdatabase through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume andautomated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names ormodify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global RegistryServices' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign forinformation purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining informationabout or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does notguarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abideby the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data onlyfor lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Datato: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of massunsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processesthat apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expresslyprohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not touse electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access orquery the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to registerdomain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the rightto restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensureoperational stability.  VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to theWhois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSignreserves the right to modify these terms at any time.The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains andRegistrars.The Data in our WHOIS database is provided by us for information purposes,and to assist persons in obtaining information about or related to a domainname registration record.  We do not guarantee its accuracy.  Bysubmitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this Data only forlawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this Data to:(1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited,commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail (spam); or  (2) enablehigh volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to us, oursystems, or our customers.  We reserve the right to modify these terms atany time.  By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain: shellproviders.com Registrant   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Administrative   Hostmaster   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Billing   Hostmaster   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Technical   Hostmaster   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Record created on July 26, 2000 Record last updated on October 07, 2004 Record expires on July 26, 2005 Domain Name Servers:   NS1.JEAH.NET   NS2.JEAH.NET
http://www.shellnews.com

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# whois shellnews.comWhois Server Version 1.3Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registeredwith many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.netfor detailed information.   Domain Name: SHELLNEWS.COM   Registrar: INNERWISE, INC. D/B/A ITSYOURDOMAIN.COM   Whois Server: whois.itsyourdomain.com   Referral URL: http://www.itsyourdomain.com   Name Server: NS1.JEAH.NET   Name Server: NS2.JEAH.NET   Status: ACTIVE   Updated Date: 07-oct-2004   Creation Date: 13-mar-2000   Expiration Date: 13-mar-2005>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:02:13 EDT <<<NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date theregistrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry iscurrently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expirationdate of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoringregistrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database toview the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whoisdatabase through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume andautomated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names ormodify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global RegistryServices' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign forinformation purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining informationabout or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does notguarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abideby the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data onlyfor lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Datato: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of massunsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processesthat apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expresslyprohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not touse electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access orquery the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to registerdomain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the rightto restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensureoperational stability.  VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to theWhois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSignreserves the right to modify these terms at any time.The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains andRegistrars.The Data in our WHOIS database is provided by us for information purposes,and to assist persons in obtaining information about or related to a domainname registration record.  We do not guarantee its accuracy.  Bysubmitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this Data only forlawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this Data to:(1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited,commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail (spam); or  (2) enablehigh volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to us, oursystems, or our customers.  We reserve the right to modify these terms atany time.  By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain: shellnews.com Registrant   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Administrative   Hostmaster   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Billing   Hostmaster   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Technical   Hostmaster   JEAH Communications, LLC   hostmaster@JEAH.net   2446 W Pershing Rd #2   Chicago, IL 60632-1047 US   +1.7732545324 Record created on March 13, 2000 Record last updated on October 07, 2004 Record expires on March 13, 2005 Domain Name Servers:   NS1.JEAH.NET   NS2.JEAH.NET
And Jeah goes as lame as to advertise this bull crap on their website:
shellproviders.com:
"...amazing selection of virtual hosts for IRC. They own literally hundreds of domain names."
shellnews.com:
"...the best vhosts. They're very short, very hip, and very clever."
How freekin nutty do you have to be? Do you work for one of these providers you listed? From what I was told I think I knew from a former friend of mine (who I dont communicate at all with any more) he ordered IRCd hosting at jeah and paid up front for 6 months or better, running an ircd with 4 people (family members) jeah said he used 300 gig of bandwidth /month and his 6 month payment turns into 2 at best ! Oh and according to him jeah did not provide him with access to any type of mrtg or anything like that so he could monitor his traffic. Or at least make sure hes not completely full of crap, and stealing money.
I completely dont understand why people over look certain things, and blindly pay twice the amount of money for a service just because some meat puppet says so, or because the service has been around a long time.
Out of that list you provided Lomag and Unix rules are the only ones that I think are decent, the rest are either shady, have immoral practices, like creating their own review sites, charging for bandwidth over usage without providing a scale to monitor -mrtg at minimum.

Statistics: Posted by rabb1d — Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:28 pm

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I'm probably going to go ahead and order the $7/M plan from Lomag later today, seeing as how I will probably only be running one eggdrop for a while.

P.S. I'm sure I'll be seeing you very soon

Statistics: Posted by sir — Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:55 am

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http://status.kirenet.com/ Have 6-7 shell servers. (KIREnet)
Established since 1998. (First shell I ever used, was of them in 99 I rem)

Lomag has uptimes 500+ one on of his boxes, and the rest exceed 300+ days very stable indeed. Lomag is also an old company. They have quite alot of new machines now as well.

These two companies also have the best vhosts you can find anywhere.
They are the most priciest but the best uptill now.

I used lomag in the start of this year around for 6 months, now I'm using kirenet for the 3rd time in the past 2-3 years.

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:44 am

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and I've narrowed it down to Kirenet and Lomag.

Any final opinions on the two?

Statistics: Posted by sir — Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:55 am

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1. Kirenet
2. Lomag
3. Unixrules
4. Risingnet
5. Jeah

Statistics: Posted by awyeah — Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:09 am

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Now a quick question, is this "Risignet" company the best of the best or what?

if not, is there a top 5 that you can throw out at me? (this one doesnt involve a price range, just curious)

Statistics: Posted by sir — Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:17 am

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