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2002-12-28T16:03:34-04:00

I know time is always a problem when it comes to coding. And as the botpack progresses I'm sure it just takes more and more of it to get it further. Obviously the more complicated the coding, the longer it will take. I have friends that code, I know how much time they have to dedicate to their work and I can certainly understand when someone just doesn't have that kind of time.

Statistics: Posted by Guest — Sat Dec 28, 2002 4:03 pm

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2002-12-28T08:35:45-04:00

Unless you are a scripter, you wouldn't understand the reasoning behind it. On top, when it's a larger ongoing project, it's different again.

It's not that he isn't motivated, it's more that the time required to intergrate certain features, is not the sort of thing, you can do in small blocks, where you can go back and do more.

When it comes to direct testing on other peoples bots, it's simply usless. You have to abide by shell rules, you didn't pick (which you are most likely breaking by sharing it), you are using information that ins't yours, nothing is confidential.

It isn't related motivations, it's more circumstances.

Statistics: Posted by ppslim — Sat Dec 28, 2002 8:35 am

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2002-12-27T21:58:53-04:00

I'm sorry to hear that you've lost most of your motivation to keep depeloping netbots. It remains one of, if not the, most developed botpacks publicly avaibable. I would hope to see it continued to be developed for, admittedly, purely selfish reasons. As it's usefullness has been proven on many occassions I will continue to use it until i'm forced to use another botpack, whether by necessity or improved performance. As I do maintain a botnet in a few channels I find it quite necessary that it's as functionally sound as possible at all times. So far your botpack has been the best at achieving this and I hope it continues to be so.

Statistics: Posted by Guest — Fri Dec 27, 2002 9:58 pm

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2002-12-27T02:35:57-04:00

I'm afraid I have no interest in using other peoples' botnets on other peoples' channels for developing netbots.tcl. Someone who writes scripts purely for the love of it may do this. But as I mentioned before, I am a practical type of scripter, and motivated primarily by my own real-world requirements when I ran a botnet and helped maintain a number of channels.

I lost much of my interest in maintaining IRC channels and botnets some time ago, so I'm not nearly as prolific in writing scripts or helping people as I once was. I am commited to maintaining egghelp.org and keeping it up to date, but netbots.tcl is another matter. I wouldn't like the work I did on it (sentinel.tcl in particular) last holiday season to go to waste, but for the past year it has been a matter of when I get the time and motivation to finish it up and refine it for release, and that remains the case today.

Statistics: Posted by slennox — Fri Dec 27, 2002 2:35 am

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2002-12-25T19:38:40-04:00

Is it possible? Did I actually bring up a good point?

Miracles really do happen everyday. I'm guessing you haven't had the time to have a botnet in a real traffic channel. But it would be a good idea to find one. Or perhaps borrow someone elses and tinker. All you have to do is find someone who trusts you enough to mess with their net while it's being used in a "real-life" setting. Hrrrmmm, where could you find such a person? *looks around the room*

Statistics: Posted by Guest — Wed Dec 25, 2002 7:38 pm

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2002-12-25T19:27:16-04:00

Not just "not files to send", but "files identical" or "no files require sending"

"no files sent" is a bit ambiguous and I've modified the message.

However, I am not sure if a major overhaul of the netupdate system is in progress.

I wasn't sure either and had to check the script (scary, isn't it? ). It has been about a year since I touched it. From what I can see, I did a lot of general fiddling and added base64. It can send binary files now.

I had planned on finishing it up this holiday season (originally, it was supposed to be finished up a last season) but so far I haven't been able to "get into it", so to speak. The number of years since I've run a botnet in a real-world, busy channel is growing, and being a practical type of scripter I find it difficult to do quality work on it in an abstract sense.

Yeah, a "force" type arg would be nice also. What if the size of both files is the same, but you had a one letter typo in the origional?

netupdate uses md5 checking and should update a file even if you just change one letter.

Statistics: Posted by slennox — Wed Dec 25, 2002 7:27 pm

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2002-12-25T05:56:59-04:00

it's also very likely that you woulnd't be allowed to link in when running any botpacks.

Statistics: Posted by ppslim — Wed Dec 25, 2002 5:56 am

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2002-12-24T22:23:17-04:00

Damn, you didn't wait long did ya? HEHE.

Yea, her bots are well maintained, I was actually considering linking nets with her. Although there's a possibility of me changing botpacks if my friend ever gets done the freakin' coding and they won't be able to link to each other when that happens.

Statistics: Posted by Guest — Tue Dec 24, 2002 10:23 pm

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2002-12-24T21:46:14-04:00

OMG - the minyons are everywhere

I don't have chance to get around much these days. When I do get on IRC, I just idle, and I just can't be botherted to launch the client just to do that.

My bots are still about. It's allmost 11 months since I did any work on them, though I have made a yearly payment for them within this time. I love my bots, I know they are well made, and I know they are well maintained by damama herself.

Seeing as it's Xmas, I will hop onto IRC right now (Click here to see me)

I am avauilable here, and I do pop on now and again, so if ya ever need any help, just call.

Statistics: Posted by ppslim — Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:46 pm

hey slim

2002-12-24T21:41:55-04:00

Hey slim, how come I haven't seen you around damama's channel?

Statistics: Posted by Guest — Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:41 pm

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2002-12-24T00:04:57-04:00

True enough.

Statistics: Posted by tainted — Tue Dec 24, 2002 12:04 am

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2002-12-23T21:26:51-04:00

Thye possibility of cherckign file hash's would be better.

Statistics: Posted by ppslim — Mon Dec 23, 2002 9:26 pm

Good Question

2002-12-23T20:41:18-04:00

I suppose I could give it a try... but not immediately

Statistics: Posted by Guest — Mon Dec 23, 2002 8:41 pm

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2002-12-23T20:06:58-04:00

Yeah, a "force" type arg would be nice also. What if the size of both files is the same, but you had a one letter typo in the origional?

Statistics: Posted by tainted — Mon Dec 23, 2002 8:06 pm

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2002-12-23T19:54:32-04:00

Thats probably an idea to add.

Not just "not files to send", but "files identical" or "no files require sending"

However, I am not sure if a major overhaul of the netupdate system is in progress.

Statistics: Posted by ppslim — Mon Dec 23, 2002 7:54 pm