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	<subtitle>Discussion of eggdrop bots, shell accounts and tcl scripts.</subtitle>
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	<updated>2002-08-16T14:40:48-04:00</updated>

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		<author><name><![CDATA[ppslim]]></name></author>
		<updated>2002-08-16T14:40:48-04:00</updated>

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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[A logic 'flaw' in the auto-op feature]]></title>

		
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See the bseen archive, it has literaly every scrip there is.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://forum.eggheads.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">ppslim</a> — Fri Aug 16, 2002 2:40 pm</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></name></author>
		<updated>2002-08-16T13:24:00-04:00</updated>

		<published>2002-08-16T13:24:00-04:00</published>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[One can always hope]]></title>

		
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Its pretty hard to find good autovoice scripts that work like this one, especially since most of them stoped development due to coded in eggdrop support<p>Statistics: Posted by Guest — Fri Aug 16, 2002 1:24 pm</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[ppslim]]></name></author>
		<updated>2002-08-16T12:33:45-04:00</updated>

		<published>2002-08-16T12:33:45-04:00</published>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[A logic 'flaw' in the auto-op feature]]></title>

		
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Right.<br><br>As you stated, this would be a rather CPU expensive idea.<br><br>However, a simple script, triggered on a timer at 5 min levels, calling the resetchan command, should in theory solve the problem.<br><br>It is doubtful your idea, while sound, would be added, as it would simply add bloat for a function caused by the user.<br><br>Auto-voice could simply be ported to a script, to provide this functionalaty.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://forum.eggheads.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">ppslim</a> — Fri Aug 16, 2002 12:33 pm</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></name></author>
		<updated>2002-08-16T11:35:21-04:00</updated>

		<published>2002-08-16T11:35:21-04:00</published>
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Since the Auto-voice system is dependant on the autoop system, i'd say the autoop<br>and all the users have a +v flag only<br><br>I understand what you mean by if the user has an o already, he may not neccessarily get a +v due to when the ircd passes the user list, the @ infront of the name doesnt include a @+<br><br>but this is definately no mistake, ive monitored it for weeks and am not including any of these case scenario's<br><br>The user joining simply does not recieve the +v at all if he/she changes their nickname before the timer triggers the +v<br><br>Currently this bot functions only to make sure that all users in the channel are voiced (with the exception of any that i -v, and only those) <br>It does not give +o to anyone.<p>Statistics: Posted by Guest — Fri Aug 16, 2002 11:35 am</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[ppslim]]></name></author>
		<updated>2002-08-16T05:04:19-04:00</updated>

		<published>2002-08-16T05:04:19-04:00</published>
		<id>https://forum.eggheads.org/viewtopic.php?p=9837#p9837</id>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[A logic 'flaw' in the auto-op feature]]></title>

		
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Are you stating the issue is with the auto-op system, or auto-voice system.<br><br>Is this only affecting user that have been oped by +autoop, or all users?<br><br>If it is all users, then this feature would be usless on most networks.<br><br>On the big networks (I havn't clarified this), +o status is the equivilant of +v, plus more powers. Thus, simply having +o, would release the requirment to set +v.<br><br>Allthough this is true, being set +v along side +o, can bring benefits to Tcl scripts. This is true up until a certain point.<br><br>This system is flawed. When a user joins a channel, each nickname in the channel is listed, along with there mode status. It will either report no modes, @ for +o, or + for +v. However, it does not post a combination.<br><br>Thus a person that has been set +v and +o, will look only to be +o. There is no way of checking the +v status.<br><br>However, if you feel there is more of an issue here, post back.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://forum.eggheads.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">ppslim</a> — Fri Aug 16, 2002 5:04 am</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></name></author>
		<updated>2002-08-15T22:27:19-04:00</updated>

		<published>2002-08-15T22:27:19-04:00</published>
		<id>https://forum.eggheads.org/viewtopic.php?p=9832#p9832</id>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[A logic 'flaw' in the auto-op feature]]></title>

		
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I use eggdroop 1.6.12 on a RedHat Linux system fyi<br><br>some beginning details<br>The eggdrop is configured to auto-voice anyone matching the 'allvoice' handle with a *!*@* hostmask within 5-15 seconds <br>this handle is given the +v #channel tag, and it works fine (+autoop is specified for this channel)<br><br>However I noticed that certain people simply were not getting voiced by the bot. <br><br>In order to check and see if possibly it wasnt matching the handle, i devoiced the person. (allowed on my particular network) This faked the eggdrop into thinking 'that's a devoiced nick' and it promptly voices it.<br><br>The random nicks that are not voiced all have one thing in common, they changed their nickname before the random timer activated the voice.<br><br>As a result i believe the nature of this problem to be related to nick change following. I know that you can enable nick tracing to be enabled for kicks (and it is) but I believe that the eggdrop does not impliment/use this function with respect to autoops correctly<br><br>I would like to request adding this feature in the next release. possibly as a config option 'trace nick changes globally (note, this can be extremely cpu intensive during a flood)' 0/1 or something<br><br>AngelofDeath<br>irc.infatech.net<br>#animunkie<p>Statistics: Posted by Guest — Thu Aug 15, 2002 10:27 pm</p><hr />
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